• We have to move away from a zero-sum mentality, to a positive-sum mentality.

• Test and name your assumptions. Then you can begin to learn.

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark is joined by someone very familiar to our listeners, Michael Horn. Michael has been on the podcast a handful of times to discuss his many books on college, innovations in higher education and more.

Michael is here to discuss his new book From Reopen to Reinvent: (Re)creating School for Every Child.